Floyd Hunnewell

November 1982

(Names and other words that could not be transcribed exactly are in italics. Unknown voices are referred to as “man” or “woman.” Comments, explanations, and additional names are in parentheses.)


(Jones Bohannon, son of Anniniah Bohannon and Amelia Campbell, married Hannah McPheters. Manley Bohannon was the son of Jones Bohannon and Hannah McPheters.)

John Dudley: . . . so the place where Peter Sears is was originally built by Annaniah Bohannon and those people would be Fred Bohannon and Ray Bohannon’s ancestors. And the place right back here where the Graves are was another Annaniah Bohannon. Ok.

Floyd Hunnewell: He heard the talking and went back down through there and found the other fellow and they both were named Annaniah Bohannon. Quite a surprise to him, of course I suppose. To be that way, and then. They both raised families. And, my grandmother was a Bohannon. She married Joseph McPheters. (Indistinct words) And, these were either (indistinct words) Those- Menley’s father, (Jones) - was a brother to my grandma - my grandmother. (Hannah)

John Dudley: Ok, and, they were - they were raised right back here on this place.

Floyd Hunnewell: Oh, yes, right down there. There was three or four of them went over to Minnesota - John and Hiram and - There was, I think, four of them.

John Dudley: Jones was Manley’s father?

Floyd Hunnewell: Father. There was Hiram and John and - I did know their names, too. I heard Mother telling of them. They went to Califor - out to Minnesota. And she had a brother went out to California - named Willard, Willard McPheters. And, he lost his ax when they came to a river there some where, and he jumped in after it, and jumped right into a bunch of quicksand and never came up.

John Dudley: Yes. All right.

Floyd Hunnewell: Went down out of sight and that was the end of it.

John Dudley: There’s a lot of people that have left this area. You look in the - like in the newsletter this time - there’s some people there in California and all over who - who have - their ancestors lived in this area.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, yes. You want to know about this mill down here, you said. I worked down there - but not the first year it run. But, I don’t know - possibly I think it was the second year when I worked there. I worked there every year that it run there. (Indistinct words) That mill, there. (Indistinct words) Pretty much in where the mill was, isn’t it?

John Dudley: It might be in by it a little - towards Murtaugh’s In by a little bit.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, the mill was just in across the brook from the town.

John Dudley: Now the mill was powered by what - a - a - -

Floyd Hunnewell: They had a great big diesel tractor motor. Oh, and an old smasher. They just had the motor to it, not the - they didn’t have the tractor there. They just had the motor.

John Dudley: Who was the mechanic that ran that?

Floyd Hunnewell: Well, they had CouledgeWhite. Harold Cousins run it nights. Couledge White ran it days.

John Dudley: Couledge came from up around Dixfield, did he?

Floyd Hunnewell: Up in there somewhere, yes.

John Dudley: And, Charley is his son?

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: Charley and Calvin. Rowena over here - Bates is his daughter. Everett Dwelley’s wife, Viola, is his daughter. There were four children.

John Dudley: So that - go ahead.

Floyd Hunnewell: Well, we used to work down there in the mill. We didn’t get too good wages when we started in. When started in, fourteen cents an hour. That was back in, I guess was - I don’t know ‘35 or ‘36 was the first year I worked down there.

John Dudley: How long a day? Fourteen cents an hour for how many hours a day?

Floyd Hunnewell: Nine hours.

John Dudley: Nine hours

Floyd Hunnewell: Nine hours. A dollar and twenty six cents a day. I guess it was.

John Dudley: Now, where did you work in the mill, in every place or - - -

Floyd Hunnewell: I didn’t work in the mill much. I worked in the mill once in a while if anyone needed a man in the mill. See, I worked the second shift, out in field sticking bars all the time. Sometimes they’d be short of a man in the mill and I have gone in and worked a little around the mill but not much. I worked in the day crew there and then one - when they - one time they decided to have a night crew and they wanted to know if I’d go in (indistinct words) show the rest of them - put new stickers on - show them what to do. So, I worked on the sticking crew at night (indistinct words) up there. Until they closed down. (Indistinct words) I went down there. We got 63 cents for half a day’s work. I paid 20 cents. Of course 20 cents is nothing today. I paid 20 cents for a ride back and forth. I paid 35 cents for my dinner. Then, when I got at noon - at noon time I’d - let’s see there was 20 - 35 for my dinner and 25 - and 20 for a ride.

John Dudley: Fifty five cents.

Floyd Hunnewell: Fifty five cents.

John Dudley: Right out of your pay.

Floyd Hunnewell: And, I got 63 cents.

John Dudley: For a half day.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes. So, I got eight cents for a half day’s work.

John Dudley: For your morning’s work.

Floyd Hunnewell: For the morning’s work. Then in the afternoon, course I got 63 cents - got the full amount. 63 and 8 is 71. 71 cents a day to feed my wife and children. I tell you that’s when times were hard.

John Dudley: I can imagine. That was during the depression.

Floyd Hunnewell: Well, the depression was getting over then, too. It was coming back. When the first year it run, I didn’t work then - eleven cents an hour that year. Only paid - that’s what they signed up for, eleven cents an hour - for the, you know, common workers - millwork. Of course the sawyers got a little bit more, but I never got - when I worked in the mill, I never got any more. (Indistinct words) That was my wages.

John Dudley: Who were the sawyers?

Floyd Hunnewell: Oh they had them come from away, most of them - real sawyers.


John Dudley: Nobody local?


Floyd Hunnewell: Not many. Well, they got so there was afterwards. I sawed a little bit, not much. Orvis Cousin, Hazen Strout used to work around the snap drag some. And, Ronald Cousins, quite a few down there, afterwards - Lawrence Frost, down there, and Darrell Frost, they worked all the time. Some of the Dwellys. Of course the Dwellys, had had a long log mill, the mill anyways, and they also had sawed laths.

John Dudley: Did they ever saw shingles over there, the Dwellys?

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes. (Mumbled words)

John Dudley: Tell me, you worked outside on the night - at night sticking the lumber, what did you use for light?

Floyd Hunnewell: Kerosene - not kerosene but gasoline lanterns.

John Dudley: Gasoline lanterns.

Floyd Hunnewell: Gasoline lanterns - had their wick - had the mantle on them. Two, I guess, double mantles. Oh, it was a good light. It was white light and of course you had to be careful of it. It was dangerous if they ran out. You couldn’t fill them up again until after it got cooled down, you know.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: You had to handle them carefully. Kind of dangerous light.

John Dudley: Now, the birch that they sawed, was that hauled in mostly by truck or mostly --

Floyd Hunnewell: Well, that birch - about the whole of it - was cut right out in here. We fellows used to cut in the fall until the mill started and then I’d go in the mill. Of course they had Mel Hunnewell and a crew over there and they’d haul the birch over there with a team. Some of it after the lake got froze solid, they haul it down onto the lake, and bring it in on a truck on the ice, but most o it was brought by team down through the road by Carlows - back of Carlows there.

John Dudley: That’s that old road.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, in through - yes, in through from there. (Murmured words)

John Dudley: Curiosity, Floyd, did they ever cut any up toward the South Princeton road from the mill?

Floyd Hunnewell: Oh, they cut wood anywhere.

John Dudley: There’s a lot of roads up in there.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, they cut it all over the county. Yes. And, then they bought a lot of wood, bought it from individuals. People from Wesley hauled over there.

John Dudley: Who did they buy that land from?

Floyd Hunnewell: That - I don’t know if a man by the name of Puffer owned that land or not - before McGregor bought it. Used to be a man by the name of Foster that owned a lot of land around here and I think perhaps they might have got that from him. I don’t know. My father owned what they called the River (Little Goodhue) (indistinct words) and he sold that to (indistinct words) They cut a lot of pulp up through there and Mel had a camp out in there. Once again that was - was S. D. Warren or - he sold that Goodhue land anyway to a man that wanted to cut pulp on it. That’s the Big Goodhue. Of course it wasn’t the same man, but afterwards McGregor bought the land out. Well, they owned it that way a few years before they ever cut it. They had it eight or ten years before they ever cut the birch. (Indistinct words) They had a lot of land around and they were promised the birch by the people before they ever moved in.

John Dudley: Right.

Floyd Hunnewell: And, they didn’t expect to be here nowhere near as long. They thought they was going to be here but four or five years and it was more than that before they got the birch cleaned out. They used to cut about 2400 cord a year and sawed. I tell you she was a cold old job, anyway. But, when you’d be up on top of one of those bogs facing that lake with a gust blowing off it, sometimes 30 below zero.

John Dudley: It’s still cold down there.

Floyd Hunnewell: Oh, I know just what it’s like.

John Dudley: I know there’s a world of difference between the place we’re at and Father’s place.

Floyd Hunnewell: If you ever notice, if you ever walk down that road (indistinct words) just as soon as you go by where Charlie Cousins’ house used to be and step down in that swamp, boy there’s a chill go through you. Seems like that settles right in there that’s 20 degrees colder than it is anywhere else - down through that swamp clean down through Carlows’ place. Awful cold down through there. Yes.

John Dudley: Now, how long would they leave the - the wood sticks on - - -

Floyd Hunnewell: All summer. They didn’t haul it in until - well not all summer - they’d stick in the winter, you see, and in the spring. They always got done sawing about before Christmas - went - week or two before Christmas sawing, and then they sawed up ‘til probably the first of May. It was quite warm weather when we got done sawing. I imagine in May. Then they’d leave them bars there until - of course the last one that they sawed would be the ones they’d leave last. They’d haul away - they’d haul the ones they sawed first - first, and I don’t know if they started in July or August or not. Probably around July - hot weather, and they’d haul until sometimes September. Now, I - now, Chick Aylward (died September 10, 1941) over there died in September. When he died, they were still hauling bars. I was helping load then.

John Dudley: He’s the one that ran the store?

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: Many a year, twelve years, about. Then Ken McPheters bouth it, then Robbie (Hunnewell). Then they moved the house down there. (to South Peter Road)

John Dudley: Right.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes.

John Dudley: Now, so they sawed wood from just before Christmas ‘til about the first of May.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, first of May, (indistinct words) probably the tenth of May (indistinct words) gone back when they got done. I know we always got done and went from one thing to the other and that was bark peeling. I used to hire out with - Harvey Niles or somebody and take a job - oh 100 cords of wood or so (indistinct words) and saw and peel it in the summer - saw it up in the fall with a buck saw. That’s all they had then, you see, to use, no chain saws.

John Dudley: No.

Floyd Hunnewell: We cut the birch - all done with a cross cut and buck saw - hard old way.

John Dudley: You say you paid 35 cents for your dinner, what did they serve you?

Floyd Hunnewell: Nicest dinner you ever see. You couldn’t imagine that they could ever put it up for 35 cents. Steak, ham and eggs, anything you wanted. Nicest cream cakes and pies that were ever made. Yes sir. Edie was a good cook. She hired - Edie, herself and (indistinct words) Nan cooked there. She was one of the best cooks was ever around here and then she hired Alice Perkins and Lou Perkins and Edie Frost worked some with her. They was all good cooks.

John Dudley: They had - they had - they built a building just as (both men speaking at the same time - hard to understand)

Floyd Hunnewell: The company always - Cousins - (Pause that sounds like the tape was turned off for a minute or so.) No, that was across - across the road from there - cookhouse was right in - between the road and the brook.

John Dudley: Between the road and the brook?

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes. Right down in there - by Cheney house.

John Dudley: Cheney house.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes. Right - just off - off the lake shore, too - up in there - little bit from the lake. The mill was right out across - just about behind the Cheney house about where the mill - where the mill was and then the cook house was up a little more - run on this ridge way - that way, and there was a spring on above it. (Ridge line of Cheney house parallel to road; ridge line of cookhouse perpendicular to road.)

John Dudley: The spring was - the spring is still there. The spring was above the cook house. I guess that kind of ties things together, doesn’t it.

Floyd Hunnewell: They tell me that spring got salted down with rock salt.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: Spoiled it.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: Spoiled it - nice water. Ayuh. That’s the way my well did, too.

John Dudley: Un huh.

Floyd Hunnewell: Same thing.

John Dudley: Gee whiz! Too bad!

Floyd Hunnewell: I had nice water and spoiled it. I lugged my - hauled my drinking water. I used it for everything else, you know the washing machine and whatever else - the dishes and everything. It was all good water, just salt in it.

John Dudley: Now, besides the buildings that we spoke of, the - the mill and the Cheney house and the - the - the cook house, etc., there was a place - one place they called - Father always called Johnny Summers’ place.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, that was up this way.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: On that side.

John Dudley: Right. On the west side. On the east side of the road, wasn’t there another house or two up there on the edge of the (indistinct word) field?

Floyd Hunnewell: Well, they had - they had their horse hovel up there.

John Dudley: Horse hovel.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes.

John Dudley: Ok, because I remember that as a kid I can remember finding, you know, the remains of a building.

Floyd Hunnewell: They had their horse hovel there

John Dudley: Horse hovel.

Floyd Hunnewell: I don’t know. They had two - two horses - probably bars in the field and they had two horses hauling in birch and they had a horse working in the sawdust. Scoops things to keep the sawdust scooped back.

John Dudley: All that sawdust was hauled out with a scoop, then.

Floyd Hunnewell: Well, no, blowed out there. Sometimes it was piled up in a pile, you know. Seems they had that pipe up there. Well, if the wind was in the north, you know what it would do. It would come out of that pipe and drop down and blow back. Pile it right up. They used to take a horse up in there and a scoop and drag that right down. Scoop it down.

John Dudley: I use some of that sawdust now on my garden. It’s really good. I haul it up there, oh probably 10, 12 yards every year.

Floyd Hunnewell: Of course there was days when the wind was right, they didn’t touch it. It would blow out, blow off.

John Dudley: But, most days down there, the wind’s out of the north.

Floyd Hunnewell: (Laughs) (indistinct words) north or north east - colder than the dickens.

John Dudley: So, those - those horses didn’t count the horses that Mel would have.

Floyd Hunnewell: Oh, no. No, Mel’s crew would haul the logs and lumber in. They were all up in the woods. (Indistinct words) stayed up in there.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes. No, no, they were just the ones that worked around the mill.

John Dudley: You were - was there - do you know if there was ever a - well, you said Cheney had a mill there before.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes. Al Cheney had a mill there. And, then, the next man that was there, we were talking about. And, after that, LaBelle had the mill there.

John Dudley: The pine mill.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, over - over around on the other side of Murtaugh’s.

John Dudley: Well, Murtaugh’s actually is right beside the old sawdust pile.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, somewhere around there.

John Dudley: You can barely see it in through the - - -

Floyd Hunnewell: I never was down there when the mill run but I know it was over in around that place somewhere.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: I never worked in it. I was never down to it probably when he was there - when he was there. I don’t know how long he was there - whether one year or longer.

John Dudley: Yes, he was there for probably three or four years. (Actually one year.) I can - I can remember that mill being in operation.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes.

John Dudley: What did Cheney saw?

Floyd Hunnewell: Lumber.

John Dudley: Long lumber.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, just long lumber - boards and planks and things for building there.

John Dudley: Yes. He probably used a diesel engine, too, or - - -

Floyd Hunnewell: No Sir, he used a - a- a steam engine. Had a great big boiler there - had a great big boiler and a great big furnace half as big as this room here. Had this big furnace and hauled from all over and cut the logs eight - about eight foot. Hard wood. (Indistinct words)as the fall would come (indistinct word) drive them right in there before winter and cut them up. Yes, that steam - that boiler run the steam mill and the steam run (indistinct words) the saw (indistinct words)

John Dudley: I suppose both of those mills off the engines - they ran big belts.

Floyd Hunnewell: Oh, belts, oh yes, sure the Stowell MacGregor belt - that belt was that wide.

John Dudley: Three - 30 inches.

Floyd Hunnewell: Three foot wide belt - awful belt that run that main shaft and that main shaft run through the whole mill - ran the whole of them. All the strippers and everything come off of that. There was just the one shaft run from the - run right from the diesel.

John Dudley: Who - who - who was - who was the guy that took care of all that equipment?

Floyd Hunnewell: The whole boss there - of course, they had the boss and so MacGregor had a boss there, too. Ray Luce. But then he was tending stuff a lot too - looked after. They had a - was up there pretty near where the house is across there from - it’s on the Harriman side now, but down - a camp right - house was built somewhere down on the lake from that knoll there.

John Dudley: Oh, was that the log one?

Floyd Hunnewell: No, no.

John Dudley: No?

Floyd Hunnewell: No, it wasn’t the log one. It was boards - it was boards. They built it right up, you know. Built - put it right up there and had the - stayed - and the bosses stayed in there. Across the road from the old bunk house. (Indistinct words) You see at that time, of course, old man Harriman was in there - they lived in the old Harriman house. There was Jim Couse, there - this was Edie’s - Edie’s husband .and he was kind of a funny fellow, and I just didn’t get along with him very good anyway, some way or other. He was mad this morning. He come down and set in the bunk house. By and by Edie come out and hollered “Jim.” He went to the door and yelled “What do you want?” She says, “The chimney’s burning out.” “Let her burn. We’ll save the cellar Went back in and set right down - never went up at all. (Laughs) “Let her burn. We’ll save the cellar.” (More laughter) Yes.

John Dudley: I just remember him.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes. Went back in and sat down and never got back at all. (Indistinct words)she told about it afterwards. Set there until we got ready to go to work. Then got up and went to work on the slip - moving wood up there. (Indistinct words) run the mill. There was a fourth guy there, this Ray Lewis. He would come (indistinct words) of course Jim was a - he was a funny sort. He was kind of stiff-necked. He was always this way.

John Dudley: Uh huh.

Floyd Hunnewell: And this - this day they hauled in a lot of birch with a truck, you know, and them trucks will pile the birch right up to the slip you know, and it didn’t give Jim nothing to do - just stand there - poke with the pick around - take a stick now and then when they needed him. Ray Lewis says, “You know, I’ve been watching Jim up there and then along come a woodpecker and lit on the back of his neck and started pecking so long in one place so it almost starved.”

John Dudley: (Laughs)

Floyd Hunnewell: (Laughs) That Ray Lewis, he’s a - pecking right on the back of Jim’s neck. Woodpecker.

John Dudley: So, Jim had a pretty good job then.

Floyd Hunnewell: Oh, (indistinct words). Oh, there was times - times when that wood - when there wasn’t no wood there. He had to come and drove quite a ways some times.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: You see, they’d haul the wood in - carry it back and of course, when at first move right along then right along when they’re thick and then of course after it got back a ways, you’d have to paw it over. Keeps it come in there, he’d have something to do then.

John Dudley: Ayuh.

Floyd Hunnewell: One of the trucks was right there all the time. They’d pile it right up - pile it up that high, you know, almost straight. All you would have to do was just take one off. Then there was nothing to do at all - go up there and take one off with the slip.

John Dudley: That slip was a chain run or - - -

Floyd Hunnewell: Oh, yes. A chain run.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: Chain run. Paddles about every four feet - five - about every four, five feet apart.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: (Indistinct mumbled words) They had four - four strippers. The main stripper bark - chain and bark stripper - then another one slices them up strait for marking (indistinct word) machine. (Indistinct words) (Strippers were saws that sawed strips.)

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: Then there was one machine that - the way it was rigged - so that you could set it for one bar, three bars whatever that was wide - sometimes rip it right through the middle and throw it to the next machine - saw it up - (indistinct words)

John Dudley: So each - each - at each saw was just one blade - it wasn’t - - -

Floyd Hunnewell: No, just - that’s all.

John Dudley: Wasn’t gang saws.

Floyd Hunnewell: No, they didn’t have no gang - no gang saws (indistinct words) When I worked down to Carleton Davis mill down to Cooper, one of them - one of them strippers down there was three. Three saws.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: Saw three boards at once. You could saw four if you (indistinct words) four boards to once. Saw planks - plank saw right after that one. (Indistinct words) I sawed down there almost full time when I worked down there. (Indistinct words) Of course, hadn’t anybody done it much. I’d done it some down there, but not too much. Went down Carleton’s then nobody worked (indistinct words) I always sawed. Sarrell Frost sawed, too. Then afterwards they hired they hired one of Dwelleys and he most sawed at his own mill.

John Dudley: That’s the mill that was way down the farther end of the Breakneck Road?

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes. Down across - it was down that road by Tim Ireland’s. It was right there by the dead end by the Cathance Grange Hall.

John Dudley: Do you remember of any mill being down there before Cheney’s mill?

Floyd Hunnewell: No, that’s the only one I can think of - that I know of.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: That was way back when I was just a kid. I was just a little fellow (indistinct word) my father. (Indistinct words) probably used to buy sometimes one or two boards or something - went down to buy and I always went with him. Take the horse and wagon and go down and get them.

John Dudley: When --

Floyd Hunnewell: When Cheney had it.

John Dudley: When Cheney had it. Now when -when Stoll and MacGregor had it, did they have a lot of - of edgings left over that people used to use for firewood?

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, oh yes, they had edgings. People hauled edgings up from all around the (indistinct word) around there.

John Dudley: Make good firewood, did they?

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, oh yes. I used to burn - that’s all I used to burn, myself. I never bought any wood (indistinct words.)

John Dudley: Two dollars a cord.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes. And, when you sawed the bunch up, you had your wood all split and everything.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: A lot of good heavy wood in there, you know. One of them - you take a chunk of crooked birch - when I sawed that straight - that crook, you know - with a big heavy buck, there, you know - you’d have a good heating block

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, a lot of good wood out of that. Only trouble, it went up the chimney hole. White birch - the bark.

John Dudley: Yes, yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: Burn out the chimney three or four times during the winter. (Indistinct words)

John Dudley: As long as you had Jim around to worry about it, you’d be all set.

Floyd Hunnewell: Well, down there, yes. (Chuckles) Jim was worried any and she hollered “The chimney is burning out. Jim go up there quick.” “Oh, let her burn, and save the cellar.” Went back and set down.

John Dudley: Now, did a lot of the men stay there?

Floyd Hunnewell: Well, they all did. Sawyers came from away. They stayed in that bunk house. Yes.

John Dudley: They would stay for the whole winter or - or - - -

Floyd Hunnewell: Oh, yes. They would stay. Oh, of course, some of them would go home - sometimes some of them would go home weekends. They worked Saturdays, you see.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: Worked six days. No chance to go nowhere. (Indistinct words) Calais. They had some from Milltown. - one or two fellows, and one or two from Princeton.

John Dudley: Now, we’re going back - we’re talking say late - say 1938, ‘39, when you were going down there in the winter time. Was that road plowed?

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, well, after ‘36.

John Dudley: After ‘36. Was the Airline plowed before 1936?

Floyd Hunnewell: Nothing plowed before 1936. Everything after.

John Dudley: So, before that it was just a beaten path.

Floyd Hunnewell: Ride on top of the snowbanks. (Indistinct words) sled down. Yes. (Indistinct words) before it was plowed.

John Dudley: Now, were they plowing Route Nine before then, or no?

Floyd Hunnewell: No, no, nothing.

John Dudley: Nothing.

Floyd Hunnewell: Nothing was plowed in this town (indistinct words). When they started plowing, they plowed everything.

John Dudley: Everything in ‘36. So, the fellows that came before that - the one year before that, didn’t get anyplace in the wintertime.

Floyd Hunnewell: No, no. They had the - the company had a - well, it looked like an old car. It had skis on front, and then it had a set of wheels set in front of that thing there up to the end of - well, right up to the end of the stick on skis, and had a belt run back.

John Dudley: Ok. Yes.

Floyd Hunnwell: Rigged up like a tractor wheel, you know.

John Dudley: Like tractors, yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: Come out that other wheel.

John Dudley: Half tracks.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, it was run (indistinct words) track that wide.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: It had another wheel set on it like a (indistinct words).on the back end of the thing on one side. Well, they used that - they’d take that and go most anywhere.

John Dudley: I imagine.