April 1983

Interviewed by John Dudley

(Names and other words that could not be transcribed exactly are in italics. Unknown voices are referred to as “man” or “woman.” Comments, explanations, and additional names are in parentheses.)

Floyd Hunewell: First ones I can remember, I think was Charlie Grover used to drive the stage here. Then there was Frank Magoon he drove it.

John Dudley: Now, you say Charlie Grover drove the stage, he was hauling mail and passengers, and what was he hauling them in?

Floyd Hunnewell: Oh, he had a carriage and horse.

John Dudley: Horse and carriage.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes.

John Dudley: All right.

Floyd Hunnewell: And, Frankie Magoon - of course at the last of it had a - had a car, but - an old Ford, but at the first of it he always hauled with a horse and wagon.

John Dudley: What kind of wagon did they use, anyway?

Floyd Hunnewell: They always had, you know, a covered carriage - a riding wagon.

John Dudley: Um hum.

Floyd Hunnewell: I’ve seen Frank Magoon when it got - the snow got so deep - he used a pung in the winter, though - the snow got so deep that he had to lug the - the mail on his back. He kept his horses in front from Frank Flood (indistinct words) He kept his horses at Frank Flood’s and he either hauled on a toboggan (indistinct words) And, he walked with snow shoes.

John Dudley: Now, where’s Frank Flood”s?

Floyd Hunnewell: It’s where Clinton is.

John Dudley: Ok, it’s Clinton’s now.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, it’s (indistinct word) Clinton’s.

John Dudley: So, he’d get to town with a pung from there, but at times he couldn’t (indistinct word).

Floyd Hunnewell: He’d get to there, then he’d go from there with - from there with a (indistinct words)

John Dudley: Where - where did - for example where did you get your mail? Did he have a mail box out front?

Floyd Hunnewell: A mail box, yes.

John Dudley: Right out front, just like now.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes. Yes, I remember one time they had a - they had a - they collected the regular - had to use (indistinct words) Charlie Grover down at the post office for a short time - wasn’t too long that way when they delivered it. Then after Lucas got on, Lucas Day. Why, they delivered - he delivered the mail. Started - started in delivering it about in ‘72 again. About - about four five years there - about the time Herb Gilman was in, they cut the mail right out. You had to go to the post office. They went to pick up the letters and back and forth and haul the mail back and forth to the post offices, but they wouldn’t deliver it along the road. You had to go to the post office to get it.

John Dudley: You had to go to the post office.

Floyd Hunnewell: The Crawford Post Office over there and one here

John Dudley: Where was the Crawford Post Office?

Floyd Hunnewell: Well, you know where Day’s is - Pat Day’s?

John Dudley: On the Arm Road?

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: That little house that you come in just this side going around the Arm Road - come just a little ways going - it would be on the right hand side going around there. Jimmy Wallace’.

John Dudley: Um-hum.

Floyd Hunnewell: That’s where they had the post office.

John Dudley: So the - the - Magoon and whoever, they would take the mail and they’d go through Alexander and Crawford, up the Arm Road and back through again.

Floyd Hunnewell: Down this way too, and - they - they had two ways. They’d come round this way at night and go round - round the other way - I think in the morning. They went the other way and it (indistinct words) in the morning. I guess they went up that way in the morning - up around - and come back around the other time.

John Dudley: Now, did -did either of those people go clear down to - Wesley to the post office there or - - -

Floyd Hunnewell: No, no.

John Dudley: Just to - - -

Floyd Hunnewell: Just Alexander and Crawford.

John Dudley: Where would they pick the mail up in - Milltown or Woodland? Baring?

Floyd Hunnewell: I don’t know at that time. Probably Baring.

John Dudley: Probably Baring. Off the train.

Floyd Hunnewell: (indistinct words) Yes, because at that time Woodland wasn’t organized too well. They’d just gotten up - way back then - Woodland. And, they had the mail there and the two - worked in the mill there, and the logging - I don’t know - I don’t know if they even had a post office at that time over there.

John Dudley: Now, the - the- mentioned the wagons - those were pulled by a single horse?

Floyd Hunnewell: Oh, yes, just a riding horse - a riding horse. That was all they had (indistinct words)

John Dudley: And the same with the pung.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes.

John Dudley: Now, if you wanted to go to town, you could go in with him.

Floyd Hunnewell: Well, one way (indistinct words) was doing that, you wouldn’t get but one to drive. One drove - might go one - that is one person, but when they drove - when they had the cars, they’d take three or four if they wanted to go. Milton Day used to take (indistinct words) going and coming - take them up anywhere they wanted to go. Yes.

John Dudley: Did you ever hear any stories about the stages before that time?

Floyd Hunnewell: No, no, I don’t believe I ever did. I - well - no, I - I can’t - I never heard nothing that I can remember.

John Dudley: Yes, once in a while, you know - apparently the stage went from Bangor through to Calais on this road.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, oh yes, it did years ago, but that was before. - that was before my day.

John Dudley: Well, yes. I thought maybe you’d heard something on that.

Floyd Hunnewell: I heard they used to go on horse back - and the stage coach (indistinct words) mostly went on horseback.

John Dudley: Where - where - - -

Floyd Hunnewell: I can remember when this road here was a - was a cattle-drive road. (Indistinct words) They just had - just wagon trains. That’s all it was. Used to go with wagons. It was just a mud road. They used to go up and down this Cooper Road down here. Right out here - grass growing right in the middle of it.

John Dudley: All right, now - now tell me about the cattle drives on the road.

Floyd Hunnewell: Well, I don’t know too much. I can remember once. It was (indistinct words) who drove it on horseback. I don’t know how many cows, cattle - cows or bulls or whatever it was - a small drove of them - and they drove them with big, long cord stick, walking behind them. Yes.

John Dudley: They - - -

Floyd Hunnewell: That’s the only time I can remember - can ever remember they drove through here. They had a slaughter house up in Calais, and they come from the West into Bangor, I suppose, on the train and on order. And, then they’d drive them through here to Calais, and slaughter them over here in the slaughter house, and kept them, I suppose, for (indistinct words) whoever wanted to - boat come right in there and get them. That’s the way they done it. Slaughter house was right down on the wharf - right - well it’s down - you go down South Street right there and then turn up to Little - according to (indistinct words) - wharf down there - big wharf down there - that’s where it used to be, the Slaughterhouse Wharf. Somewhere’s in there - pretty near to Woodbury’s - - -

John Dudley: Down in that area.

Floyd Hunnewell: Right in there, yes. That’s where it was - big old wharf right in there - where the slaughter business. The old slaughterhouse used to be right in there - great big stables. Hell, I suppose there was cattle in them.

John Dudley: Um hum.

Floyd Hunnewell: I suppose that all fell down - been down. I almost think that where that junk yard is.

John Dudley: So, you - you talk about the cattle drive and the cattle that you remember were being driven toward Calais.

Floyd Hunnewell: Oh, yes. They were going toward Calais. They wouldn’t - that was the only way they drove them, anyway - to Calais - from Bangor to Calais. (Indistinct words)

John Dudley: Had a - over here by the new school, there’s a - there’s a pound over there.

Floyd Hunnewell: Well, yes that’s where the ones that people right down here if the cows get out.

John Dudley: Yes.

Floyd Hunnewell: That’s when they captured them and put them in that pound to hold them. Whoever had them could come get them. If they kept them there and had to feed them and of course people (indistinct words) have to pay.

John Dudley: Right. That’s right near where you lived.

Floyd Hunnewell: Yes, on the farm.